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Which bits do you like for the following...

-Training

-Bumper Bits (Next step for when they are ready to come out of whatever bit you train in)

-Tuning/Drills Bits

-Everyday Riding

-Ratey Horse

-Free Runner who needs help rating

-Stabilizing bit (For horses who need some help keeping shoulders up)

-Ideal bit for finished horses (What you try and keep them in the long run when they are competitively running)

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Training- I start my horses on the pattern with a O-Ring Snaffle, every horse. They stay in that for as long as possible (some switch when they start adding speed the 2nd year of training, while others stay well into the 4th year when running).

Bumber- For next step bits I like the Easy 5, Sherry Cervi, Tender Touch, Jr. Cowhorse, Pozzi, Light Dutton Bits.

Tuning- I use the following bits a lot when tuning different horses...Sherry Cervi, Charmayne James Long Shank with small port, Banana Bit. If I am off the pattern I tune in Snaffles.

Everyday Riding- When not working the pattern or drills they get rode in Snaffle bits.

Ratey Horses- I personally ride a ratey horse in the lightest bit possible....so a lot of the bits in the Bumper bits get rode on Ratey horses. I also like the O ring Combo gag because it is light (even though not a big user of gags).

Free Runner- Depending on type It can be from a longer shanked bit with less gag, to a bit with a noseband. On free runners I find that the Sharron Camarillo Drop Nose Correction is a great bit to get a horse to rate. I use both the long and short shank.

Stabilizing Bit- For a shoulder holder bit I like the Charmayne James series. They have the longer shank with no gag action. But the ideal bit would be any longer shank that has little to no gag action.

Ideal Bit- My goal is to keep a horse in the Bumber Bit section of bits...I am not a fan of biting a horse up. If I have to temporarily I will only run them in that bit until I get whatever is going on under control and corrected then go back to the lighter bits.

For me the lighter the bit the better.....I like bits that have little to no gag action (depends on the horse, lighter horses I will put a bit with more gag). I also only up the bit if I feel the horse isn't getting the right cues from the current bit being used.

So that is my personal preference of bits that are in the collections. And the tuning bits depend on what exactly I am trying to fix...from rate, shape, stabilizing, correcting, ect.

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Training bits i use
O ring snaffle
D ring snaffle

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I dont use bumper bits i usually just go straight into a competition bit

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	Justcowgirlz wrote:
	I dont use bumper bits i usually just go straight into a competition bit

Can you go more in depth of why and what bits you like to use?

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"Don't pick up any rodeo checks until the event is over"

"Good, better, best. Never let it rest. Until your good is better and your better is best."

I dont really know why just never have had the need to i usually start out in a snaffle and i usually like to use a long scank of some sort when i am done. Just a personal preference

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I use any snaffle! Smile

the lighter on the horse the better

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I like to use snaffles when i tak my horse back to the basic preferably a snaffle with a long shank

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	Barrelracewinner wrote:
	I like to use snaffles when i tak my horse back to the basic preferably a snaffle with a long shank

A snaffle is a snaffle, any bit with a shank is a curb not a snaffle.

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"Good, better, best. Never let it rest. Until your good is better and your better is best."

BarrelRacingLvr wrote:

	Barrelracewinner wrote:
	I like to use snaffles when i tak my horse back to the basic preferably a snaffle with a long shank

A snaffle is a snaffle, any bit with a shank is a curb not a snaffle.

not true i have a snaffle by britney pozzi with a long shank

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Barrelhorseluver wrote:

BarrelRacingLvr wrote:

	Barrelracewinner wrote:
	I like to use snaffles when i tak my horse back to the basic preferably a snaffle with a long shank

A snaffle is a snaffle, any bit with a shank is a curb not a snaffle.

not true i have a snaffle by britney pozzi with a long shank

No, a snaffle does NOT have shanks. ANY bit with a shank is a curb bit. It is common sense knowledge of bits.

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"Don't pick up any rodeo checks until the event is over"

"Good, better, best. Never let it rest. Until your good is better and your better is best."

Do have to agree. I snaffle looking mouth piece with shanks is NOT a snaffle what so ever. Snaffle's aren't meant to be leverage bits, which is what a shank is. Snaffles are completely different in the way they are designed. Snaffle's are meant to be to soften a horse up or work a horse in. Actually I find a snaffle one of the bits kinda hard to ride in. Because not only does your horse have to be supple, very supple to the bit to get them to stop at high rate speeds. They also have to be soft and supple to your leg, your voice cues(if you have them) and your seat cues as well as reins. Snaffle's aren't meant to be pulled on there just there to remind the horse "hey I'm here listen.".

As for a shank even with just one pound of pressure that you pull down with depending on how long the shank is. Is putting almost 3 times as much pressure on the horses mouth as you pull down. Shanks are for horses who are trained for them. If the horse isn't trained for a shank and isn't supple for the shank. It has no business being in a shanked bit.

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Chestnut&Bays wrote:

Do have to agree. I snaffle looking mouth piece with shanks is NOT a snaffle what so ever. Snaffle's aren't meant to be leverage bits, which is what a shank is. Snaffles are completely different in the way they are designed. Snaffle's are meant to be to soften a horse up or work a horse in. Actually I find a snaffle one of the bits kinda hard to ride in. Because not only does your horse have to be supple, very supple to the bit to get them to stop at high rate speeds. They also have to be soft and supple to your leg, your voice cues(if you have them) and your seat cues as well as reins. Snaffle's aren't meant to be pulled on there just there to remind the horse "hey I'm here listen.".

As for a shank even with just one pound of pressure that you pull down with depending on how long the shank is. Is putting almost 3 times as much pressure on the horses mouth as you pull down. Shanks are for horses who are trained for them. If the horse isn't trained for a shank and isn't supple for the shank. It has no business being in a shanked bit.

EXACTLY!

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"Don't pick up any rodeo checks until the event is over"

"Good, better, best. Never let it rest. Until your good is better and your better is best."

All our horses are started, trained and kept in Snaffles. The young horses are started in Bosals then moved to Snaffles. When they reach the age of 5 and are shown the cutters and reiners have to use a curb bit so they are rode in one a few times to get the feel. After they get the feel they are ONLY shown in them....when they are not competing they are rode in snaffles.

Same with my moms Dressage horses, they are rode, schooled, trained in Snaffles but since you have to have a double bridle when competing at higher rated shows. She tries to only use the 1st rein and not the 2nd, because really her horses don't need the 2nd rein. Her hunters obviously are in snaffles, but her eventing horse is ALSO in a snaffle all the way through, no curb bits for them either.

The barrel prospects are also started, finished, and ran in Snaffles. We don't up them to curbs at ANY point and I don't think a horse should NEED a curb bit if they are respectful of the snaffle, no matter the speed.

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Last edited by barrelracingjunkie93 on Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:08 am; edited 1 time in total

Barrelhorseluver wrote:

BarrelRacingLvr wrote:

	Barrelracewinner wrote:
	I like to use snaffles when i tak my horse back to the basic preferably a snaffle with a long shank

A snaffle is a snaffle, any bit with a shank is a curb not a snaffle.

not true i have a snaffle by britney pozzi with a long shank

Where did you learn about bits? A snaffle works off the corners of the mouth, a curb bit (shanked bits) work off more Poll, and Chin pressure with some corner pressure. A snaffle is a bit that offers no leverage, shanked bits provide leverage. Completely different bit mechanics.

I suggest you do more research and learn more about bits and the mechanics of them.

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