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What is everybody's opinions/views on Tie-Downs?

I personally am NOT a fan of them....but right now Scrat is in one, but wasn't my decision. It is just tight enough to keep him from rooting his nose out and doing what he feels like during a run. The ONLY time he is in it is when he is ran....the rest of the time he isn't in it.

Like I said I personally am NOT a fan of them and would rather fight with a horse then put one on. I honestly don't see the point in using one if a horse knows how to handle themselves properly no matter the discipline. And they just seem to create more issues down the line...

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Why do you figure that tie downs cause more problems down the line? A tie down is not only used for head control, the horse uses it for balence too

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	Barrelhorseluver wrote:
	Why do you figure that tie downs cause more problems down the line? A tie down is not only used for head control, the horse uses it for balence too

If a horse is bracing on a tie-down other parts of the body are not engaged. A horse learns to brace against them, and if you want to try and ride a horse who has lived in one without their heads are in the air because they don't know how to function without one. I have had horses that were ran in tie-downs/headsetters before we got them and I hated how they ran. They cause a horse to become stiff because the horse braces so you pretty much lose leverage if you need it when the horse is working off the front end.

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I like tie downs on some horses it really helps them but on others i do not it depends on the horse, but i have never heard of it ruining them or causeing problems

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	Justcowgirlz wrote:
	I like tie downs on some horses it really helps them but on others i do not it depends on the horse, but i have never heard of it ruining them or causeing problems

How do you figure it helps them? I don't believe the whole "Helps them balance" bull...

Then you obviously have never tried running a horse that has been ran in one for years after taking it off.....it is like they have no foundation and can't function.

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Can you explain to me how parts of a horses body is not engaged if he is bracing on a tie down please you make no sense to me

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	Barrelracewinner wrote:
	Can you explain to me how parts of a horses body is not engaged if he is bracing on a tie down please you make no sense to me

When a horse is bracing...what part of the body is the horse stiffening up? The front end.....so the horse is going to be more front end and not use it's hind quarters properly. It's back is going to hollow out, his whole body is going to stop working in a smooth action. He isn't going to pick up his ribcage and shape like needed, the horse isn't going to properly use it's body.

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"Good, better, best. Never let it rest. Until your good is better and your better is best."

I have never had a problem with tie downs on my horses, and not all horses that run in a tie down have high heads my new horse frosty runs perfectly fine with a tie down and runs with his head low

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	Barrelhorseluver wrote:
	I have never had a problem with tie downs on my horses, and not all horses that run in a tie down have high heads my new horse frosty runs perfectly fine with a tie down and runs with his head low

Then why are you using a Tie-Down.....

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BarrelRacingLvr wrote:

	Barrelhorseluver wrote:
	I have never had a problem with tie downs on my horses, and not all horses that run in a tie down have high heads my new horse frosty runs perfectly fine with a tie down and runs with his head low

Then why are you using a Tie-Down.....

tie downs are not to be used as a head brace that is a common misconception horses use them to balance on

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Barrelhorseluver wrote:

BarrelRacingLvr wrote:

	Barrelhorseluver wrote:
	I have never had a problem with tie downs on my horses, and not all horses that run in a tie down have high heads my new horse frosty runs perfectly fine with a tie down and runs with his head low

Then why are you using a Tie-Down.....

tie downs are not to be used as a head brace that is a common misconception horses use them to balance on

A horse is going to be bracing on the Tie-Down because it needs the tension for the "balancing" act people proclaim is going on....and that whole balancing thing is a JOKE. A horse bracing on one is just going to be Front Endy and not be using it's body properly. People use them to keep a horses head from breaking noses, keeps the horses nose in....I really don't see how a horse can "balance" on a tie-down. That just makes me laugh when people say it.

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It does help them balence i dont believe it should be used for head problems. And why would you take it off a horse that has ran in it their whole life anyways?

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	Justcowgirlz wrote:
	It does help them balence i dont believe it should be used for head problems. And why would you take it off a horse that has ran in it their whole life anyways?

Really? And just how does a piece of leather/nylon help a 1200lb horse balance?

Because I don't like Tie-Downs and they just cause problems.

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"Don't pick up any rodeo checks until the event is over"

"Good, better, best. Never let it rest. Until your good is better and your better is best."

Tie downs: DON'T like them.

Reason why? Oh boy =)!

They do not help a horse balance, nor help a horse run, it is not a training tool it is a quick fix for riders who don't like head high horses.

"Common misconception the horses balance with them on." Uh no. If the horse is having to brace against it going around, then they're finding someway to balance on it going around. Try it, just try a barrel horse who is ran with a tie down ALLLLL the time at full speed with out one. Bet you 10 bucks that horse will blow out and go down going around the first barrel. Why?

Because when a horse has had something there for so long that's its balancing off of and bracing off of. They have no idea how and where to put there weight or balance when running with out one. So in equation with all that. You get a head high horse who "thinks" it's able to brace and balance but can't and it trips and goes down around the first barrel.

Tie downs are used for lazy riders who don't wanna take the time to WORK on the horse NOT having high head carriage going around or running the barrels. What BRL has said about only using it when he runs, but working in practicing with out one. Is her not being lazy, she's working on try to get him off of it. In no way in hell does a tie down go as a "training" tool. Because all it teaches the horse is to brace off of it.

When the horse braces they get stiff in there neck and the front end. If they're having to brace against something going around the barrel, they defiantly aren't using something going around. If your horse has to brace and or balance going around the barrel with a tie down. The horse was not taught right.

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