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Barrelhorseluver
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuZ1j8bFruw
some of the runs are really old but comment away!

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Im not going to comment on what i think because i know you will get pissy and i dont want to get banned

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*1st Run*

-First barrel is rather sloppy, the horse isn't using it's hind end for one. Is stiff, and doesn't want to turn.

-Second barrel you shift all your weight to you hip and throw you hip to the inside. Your horse drops it's shoulder, stiffens and dives in at the barrel then lags coming out.

-Third barrel the horse still drops it's shoulder and you drop your hip to the inside.


*2nd Run*

-First barrel the horse isn't using it's hind end, and your on the horses face coming out. Your reins are WAY to long, so are your stirrups.

-Second barrel horse drops shoulder, isn't using hind end around barrel, the horse drifted badly going to third.

-Third barrel horse is way out in the middle of no where and didn't finish the barrel at all.

You are behind the horse the whole run, and the horse needs more help then what your giving. Your trying to ride it like a finished horse when the horse is lost and nowhere near finished. More two hands less one handed....


*3rd Run*

-First barrel the horse blows by first, your not helping him at all going in. On the backside I see A LOT of jerking on the horses face.

-Second barrel going in your jerking on the outside rein, you need to use less outside rein and more inside rein. When you pull the outside rein it is dropping that inside shoulder.

-Third barrel the turn is ok but the horse drops his front end going into the turn.

WAY to much jerking on the face...unacceptable.


*4th Run*

-First barrel the horse coming through the gate is just going when he feels like going, and is just running. Going in you didn't help him and just sat there. The whole turn was terrible, he didn't set up or use is body correctly at all.

-Second barrel the horse drops his front end and doesn't stay up and square. He swings his hindend on the backside of the barrel, comes out wide.

-Third barrel the horse comes in wide, drops front end, doesn't set up, doesn't finish barrel and just blows out.


*5th Run*

-First barrel you go pushing in their then sit and grab the face at the last second expecting a freer running horse to just get on it's hindend and turn.

-Second barrel going across your tipping the horses nose out which is dropping the inside shoulder, then when your at the barrel you snatch the inside rein making the horse almost turn into the barrel. Your leaning to the inside, and your hip is dropped WAY down.

-Third barrel going into it your tipping the nose out again and the horse is dropping it's shoulder VERY badly and is not using the hindend properly.


*6th Run*

-First barrel horse rates at the last turn then bounces off the fence

-Second barrel you sit to soon when you need to push a stride further. You tip the nose out and the horses shoulder is dropped.

-Third barrel you sit 3 1/2 strides before the barrel, drop your hip to the inside, and tip the horses nose to the outside then snatched the face. The horse really dropped it's shoulder.


*7th Run*

-First barrel was decent you helped the horse better, he sorta lagged coming out.

-Second barrel you tip the horses nose out 3 strides before the barrel dropping the horses shoulder then snatching it's nose.

-Third barrel you tipped the nose out, the horse didn't use it's hindend properly and swung around.


*8th Run*

-First barrel you pushed him until the last second then expected him to turn, didn't help him much.

-Second barrel you tipped the nose out, dropped your hip to the inside, horse isn't using hindend.

-Third barrel you tip the horses head to the outside, dropping your hip, sitting to soon, snatched the face, horse didn't use hindend.


*9th Run*

-First barrel you lean to the inside, the horse isn't using it's hindend.

-Second barrel was decent but the horse isn't using it's hindend.

-Third barrel you lean to the inside, horse isn't using it's hindend and you are on it's face coming out.


*10th Run*

-First barrel was choppy and wide, not collected.

-Second barrel the horse was choppy all over the place and not using it's hindend. You drop your hip to the inside.

-Third barrel you drop your hip, your horses shoulder drops and isn't using it's hindend.


*11th Run*

-First barrel was decent, your leaning to the inside, horse isn't using it's hindend.

-Second barrel horse is stiff, not collected, and out of control coming off the back. Also not using hinded.

-Third barrel horse cut off pocket, your dropping your hip, horse came off wide.


*12th Run*

-First barrel you go flying into first then give a good jerk 1 stride out, horse is fighting the tie-down.

-Second barrel you tip the head out then REALLY drop your hip and lean out.

-Third barrel you tip the horses head out then jerk to the inside rein, you drop your hip then lean forward to the outside.

The horse was fighting the Tie-Down the entire run.


*13th Run*

-First barrel horse is very front endy, turn is not fluent and very choppy.

-Second barrel horse is very stiff, doesn't use hindend properly.

-Third barrel horse is front endy and cuts off pocket.


*14th Run*

-First barrel horse drops shoulder going in, your leaning to the inside.

-Second barrel horse drops on it's front end when it gets to barrel, isn't using hindend.

-Third barrel horse drops shoulder, cuts off the pocket.


*15th Run*

-First barrel your kicking till about 2 strides, tip the head out then snatch the inside rein. Horse is very scattered and your over riding him on the backside.

-Second barrel you never stop riding....you really over riding and to worried about kicking and whipping.

-Third barrel horse is scattered and your over riding.


*16th Run*

The run is to blurred to see to much detail but I can tell the horses turns are not fluent, choppy, stiff, and very stally.


*17th Run*

Same as above post...


*18th Run*

-First barrel is pretty smooth

-Second barrel the horse is dropping on it's front end and dropping the shoulder. Nose is tipped more to the outside then shaped in like it should be. On the backside you snatch the face.

-Third barrel the horse drops to the front end and drops the shoulder.


*19th Run*

-First barrel the horse drops it's shoulder your hands are doing a lot of jerking around. Horse isn't using hindend.

-Second barrel horse isn't using it's hindend, your hands are jerking.

-Third barrel you tip the nose out, the horse drops onto its front end and cuts off the pocket, then you jerk to the inside rein and snatch the face. Horse isn't using hindend.


*20th Run*

-First barrel you come in fast, tip the head out, horses turn isn't fluent.

-Second barrel you tip the head out, the horse drops onto it's front end and isn't using it's hindend properly.

-Third barrel you tip the head out, the horse drops onto the front end, you jerk to the inside rein and snatch the face.


*21st Run*

-First barrel was pretty smooth, 2 strides out you get on the horses face.

-Second barrel you tip the nose out, the turn is choppy, horse isn't using hindend.

-Third barrel horse drops on the front end, you tip the head out, horse cuts off pocket, doesn't use hindend.

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I agree with what you said mostly except i was taught that as long as you lift your shoulder your horse has to lift his and it doesnt matter what your hips do?

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Frostysangels wrote:
I agree with what you said mostly except i was taught that as long as you lift your shoulder your horse has to lift his and it doesnt matter what your hips do?


You can lift your shoulder all day long, but it defeats the purpose when your still throwing all your weight to the inside when pushing your hip down.

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I have to disagree with the part about pusjing a horse really fast and expecting him to sit down and turn on the last second... Isnt that what you want with a barrel horse? Thats what all the pros do at least as far as i can see

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Barrelracewinner wrote:
I have to disagree with the part about pusjing a horse really fast and expecting him to sit down and turn on the last second... Isnt that what you want with a barrel horse? Thats what all the pros do at least as far as i can see


You completely missed my point....you can't go flying into a barrel then right at the barrel when a horse is going THAT fast expect it to turn. That is like a 18-wheeler trying to make a sudden turn. It isn't possible. The horses weren't set up to turn....ya if the horse was set up properly to turn and could handle it.

But when a horse is going that hard you can't expect to just sit and pull the nose around and expect the horse to turn. On a ratey horse yes....on a free runner your going to go to the fence EVERY time.

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thank you for your comments!
on my first run i realize the first barrel was messy i didnt set him up properally its a small arena and i had never ran him there before. He loves turning actually that was my fault not his, he is a big horse and I didn’t give him a j going in. on second he really likes to dive at the barrel, so we are still trying to get him out of that habit. I have never tried that with my hips so I will give it a try! I usually just lift my shoulder which will not allow your horse to hit a barrel.
Sorry second run isnt me its my firend lauren.
Third run thanks ya I was wearing my dads sunglasses which where too big and I could barley see my run. Thanks I have fixed the whole jerking on the outside thing I now lift up with my inside rein instead. It wasn’t that I was trying to jerk on his face I just couldn’t really see well.
The fourth run is again lauren.
The fith run I also ride him in there like that except that ground was looser and lots of horses where sliding into the fence in there. Thanks I have now figured out how to push down on my horn and turn which makes my sit straight.
The sixth run it looks like that but actually he had a nice snappy first barrel he is a big horse you have to ride him like that. Thanks I figured that out with second. I never really snatched his face on third so im confused.
On the seventh run i know he legged coming out but what could I have done about that? I don’t even own him any more. On third I never pulled his nose out so im confused?
8th run is lauren…

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If you watch the 6th run and watch closely when you drop your outside rein you quickly snatch his face.

Same with 7th video....you started tipping his head/nose out at 4:22 about 3 1/2 strides out.

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Barrelhorseluver wrote:
I have never tried that with my hips so I will give it a try! I usually just lift my shoulder which will not allow your horse to hit a barrel.


What do you mean by that statement ^^^^^^? What are you going to try with your hips?

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Really because i have never seen someone who has there shoulder up knock a barrel

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O the nineth run I have to leave him alone and give him his face that’s why it looks like I am leaning forward. I realize he doesn’t use his hind end, he is a seasoned barrel horse and I cant take that out of him hes 22 years old believe me I have tried. On third barrel the only time I leaned forward is coming out to get him moving again. But I was never on his face if I was you would have seen him throw a fit.
Tenth run is lauren.
On the eleventh run yes I realize I was leaning to the inside and he didn’t use his hind end. On second It was not out of control just fast the way its supposed to be. And what do you mean by collected? On third he didn’t come off wide? What are you talking about? And yes I am going to try rideing better with my hip.
Twelve run is Cailey and the thirteenth is lauren.
On the 14th run that’s what your supposed to do kick until right before the barrel. Thanks I realize I was over riding him. I realize I went wide into 3rd because I didn’t drop my whip.
The 15th and 16th run was my first time on that horse he can turn a barrel don’t worry he used to go pro. we were going slow.
17th run: thank you this is my prospect I just started hauling. I don’t under stand what you mean snatched her face? And I never tiped her nose out. I realize she wasn’t using her hind end, and I no I got a bit on her face on 3rd.
18th run was bad I no!
19th I thought was awsome mean my body was bad and ps its about speed duhhh
20th run was really smooth came out wide I know but I won the rodeo so so what lol

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Your not going to get much respect if you have that mentality...

You should ride your best and correctly each run. It doesn't matter if you won, people are gonna be watching your riding.

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[quote="BarrelRacingLvr"]If you watch the 6th run and watch closely when you drop your outside rein you quickly snatch his face.

Same with 7th video....you started tipping his head/nose out at 4:22 about 3 1/2 s
What do you suppose i do instead?

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BarrelRacingLvr wrote:
If you watch the 6th run and watch closely when you drop your outside rein you quickly snatch his face.

Same with 7th video....you started tipping his head/nose out at 4:22 about 3 1/2 s
What do you suppose i do instead?


Correctly ride him into his turn, and lift and properly shape him. Not tip his nose/head to the outside.

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